Listening
Listening
These are the voices I listen to in the car, on walks, doing dishes. Some for years now. I skip around between communication skills and the social sciences, AI, healthspan, history, politics, and how the brain and body hold up over time. Healthspan, in case it’s new to you: the years you stay well and able, not just the years you rack up
Podcasts I follow:
Here are the shows I don’t skip. I don’t agree with all of them, I trust all of them, which is different. I like it when
they are on video so I get a sense of how they look and their body posture, facial expressions, but mostly I listen.

The Diary of a CEO
Aging Boldly, MIND, MOOD & MENTAL FITNESS, AI & the Future We Choose
Host: Steven Bartlett.
Steven is genuinely curious and empathic whether he’s sitting with Tony Robbins, JD Vance or Yuval Harari, and he arrives having done the reading. When a guest drops an acronym or a term the normal Joe wouldn’t know, he stops and asks them to define it. I found out he does that because many of his listeners are in prison and he wants them to follow along — and that’s when I fell hard for the guy.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
Aging Boldly, MIND, MOOD & MENTAL
FITNESS
Host: Mel Robbins.
Mel’s “Let Them” theory helped me think more confidently about who I am and what I care about, and I feel less alone in my curiosity. Sometimes her enthusiasm wears on me — in Germany, enthusiasm is enjoyed but not really respected. The guests and the conversations are worth it.

A Bit of Optimism
MIND, MOOD & MENTAL FITNESS · AI & THE FUTURE WE CHOOSE
Host: Simon Sinek
Simon is an optimist by temperament, not by strategy, and he looks for the possibility in whatever his guests bring to the table. His guests are thinkers, leaders, artists and scientists, and the conversations are honest without being heavy. I have a real soft spot for him, especially when he’s vulnerable about his own failures.

Wiser Than Me
AGING BOLDLY
Host: Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
I loved Julia as Elaine thirty years ago in the TV comedy “Seinfeld” and she’s just as funny now, asking women over 70 about their lives, their mistakes, and what they’d do differently. The Jane Fonda episode is my favorite. There are many others and we can learn from all of them.

On Purpose with Jay Shetty
MIND, MOOD & MENTAL FITNESS
Host: Jay Shetty.
Once you’re done falling in love with his eyes, this soft-spoken, empathetic human wins you over with how directly he gets at the question of meaning and purpose. He talks with thought leaders, authors and experts about the inner life, and about communication, friendship and relationships.

The Oprah Podcast
MIND, MOOD & MENTAL FITNESS
Host:
Oprah is like the Oracle character in the film “The Matrix” for me. She is just so damn wise. Unafraid to ask the hard question, to be vulnerable, and to be compassionate to everyone.

Unlocking Us / Dare to Lead
STORIES FROM THE KITCHEN TABLE
Host:
No longer running, and still worth your time. Brené tells a story about her own life and I’m belly laughing, because I’ve done exactly that thing and never had a name for it. Then I catch myself doing it again on Tuesday. Scroll the archive and find the one that meets you where you are.

Where Should We Begin?
STORIES FROM THE KITCHEN TABLE
Host:
Years ago, Esther Perel’s thinking was a big part of what saved my marriage. She sits with real couples in single anonymous sessions and lets you listen. Infidelity, desire, the resentments that have gone unspoken for years – you hear people say things out loud for the first time. It’s relational intelligence, live.

Lex Fridman Podcast
AI & THE FUTURE WE CHOOSE
Host:
Full disclosure – I love his voice. But I also love that he does the research and uses it to go deeper rather than to sound clever. He seems genuine, and very smart, yet gets emotional.
Specific podcast episodes that stayed with me
You don’t have to love the show. Here are links to individual conversations I’ve thought about for months afterward,
changed my habits or grew my perspective.
Aging Boldly
Reframing later chapters, badass women refusing to fade and to be our best authentic selves.

Mel Robbins × Dr. Stacy Sims
“The Ultimate Guide to Menopause”
Mel and Stacy bond and have this great repartee – makes it easy to listen to and remember her tips about morning protein coffee, creatine and weightlifting. After I heard this episode, I changed both how I eat and work out. Somehow it’s less stressful than ever and I have better results. I’ve never felt so strong so Thanks Stacy Sims!

DOAC × Dr. Marie-Claire Haver
“They’re Lying to you about Menopause!”
Ladies, we were screwed by male-dominated science! This episode is still being quoted two years after it came out, informing us on all the myths we suffered under and never questioned, because nobody gave us anything to question them with. I finished it angry, which turned out to be the useful part.

Mel Robbins × Dr. Joseph Coughlin (MIT AgeLab)
MIT Longevity Expert: Do These 3 Things Now to Stay Young, Live Longer, & Keep Your Freedom
Mel and Dr. Coughlin reveal what three things we can do now to age slower. Through his explanation of 8000 day intervals in our lives, it’s confirmed that this 8000 day term can be better and more fun than we imagined.

Wiser Than Me × Jane Fonda
Jane Fonda was the first fitness guru I ever paid attention to, and at 88 she says she does the same exercises — just not quite so heavy, not quite so fast. Here she’s honest about regretting the plastic surgery, which women in her position don’t admit out loud. Not from this episode, but it’s why I love her: she went to a gala, then posted a photo the next morning still in the gown, hair everywhere, because she lives alone and couldn’t get out of it.
Mind, Mood & Mental Fitness
Honest talk about the inner life.

The Oprah Podcast × Michael Pollan
I knew Pollan from his food writing, then he turned to psychedelics — and I came to it already curious, already researching. What makes him worth reading is that he doesn’t arrive as a believer or a debunker. He describes what these substances did for him around grief and trauma, what he got wrong, and where he’d warn you off. I trust him.

The Oprah Podcast
Estrangement, Both Episodes as a Pair
What I appreciated was that Oprah brought experts from each side of the fence. Joshua Coleman gave me perspective and helped me understand estrangement — that it is sometimes the right call, and that when it isn’t, it can hurt everyone involved for decades. There’s a trend today of young people cutting off relationships in the moment, and it is traumatic for the parents and siblings it affects. Hearing both cases made me think harder about my own.

Oprah × Ryan Holiday
How to Stay Calm When Life Falls Apart
This is a great podcast to understand WHAT Stoicism is and how to use it to be calm, to take action when its required. The four virtues of stoicism are courage, self-discipline, justice & wisdom. It’s 3000 year old way of life and the principles help me every day. “What is standing in the way, becomes the way” — Marcus Aurelius — is Glimmer and Grit pure.

JAY SHETTY Dr. Gabor Maté
The #1 Reason You Never Feel Like You’re Enough (And How to Fix it)
If Dr. Bessel van der Kolk taught me the science of trauma. Gabor Maté taught me what to do with it when there’s an actual person standing in front of me. He explores identity and healing with real compassion, including the hardest question, why children grow up to do bad things. His answer starts early: when a child’s need to be seen isn’t met, they learn to hide the parts that didn’t get a welcome, and become whoever seems most likely to be loved. Understanding that has helped me forgive people, and stop taking so much personally.

ALL THERE IS with Anderson Cooper × Sharon Stone
I always admired Sharon Stone but didn’t know she had a massive stroke a few years ago. With an IQ of 154, her intellect and eloquence describing her experience, the death of her mother and letting go of expectations — is inspiring and helpful. Anderson Coopers podcast is about loss and grief, something we have to face a lot of in this chapter of life.
Ai & The Future We Choose
Agency and possibility in an unknown future..

DOAC × Mo Gawdat
The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven
Mo lays out both a dystopian and a utopian path, including AI enabling universal healthcare access. He has a combination of AI expertise and humanism, and lays out the possibilities and dangers and what we – every one of us – can do to steer this new age in the direction we choose.

A Bit of Optimism × Ethan Mollick
The AI Skills Nobody is Teaching (and everyone needs)
Mollick has no stake in either the hype or the doom, which is why I trust him. His case is conditional and I like that: IF we learn to use these tools well — for actual learning, and built not to flatter us — THEN the future gets genuinely good. The IF is the part that’s up to us.The

Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future
In this townhall podcast Oprah leads a discussion balancing warnings with a utopian vision where tech is a partner to unlock human potential. She discusses AI’s role in healthcare specifically — removing clerical burdens to allow for deeper, more personal patient connections. She urges optimism and steering AI toward innovation and society rather than fear.

A Bit of Optimism × Tristan Harris
Tristan Harris is an AI ethicist who argues for regulation. What stayed with me was his account of what the tech bro builders building this actually believe when you press them: that the replacement of biological life by digital life is inevitable, and fine. He describes it as the thrill of lighting a fire to see what happens. It’s dark! But he and also ,I don’t think it is inevitable. We must push for regulation and use our voices to use AI for the good of humanity. That is why I listen to him.

DOAC × Yuval Noah Harari
I’ve read and recommend all Harari’s books. In this podcast you get a feel for his knowledge of human history, his pragmatism and conservative optimism about the future.

DOAC × Tony Robbins
AI, Work and Meaning
Tony Robbins used to be too much GOGOGO for me. And after listening to his story here and feeling his authenticity — at least on this show — he moved me. Here, he brings his story and views on AI, potential and dangers.
Stories From The Kitchen Table
Intimacy, friendship, food and ordinary wisdom.

Mel Robbins × Priya Parker
Try it For 1 Week:Small Ways to Make Your Life Fun & Exciting Again
Priya brings many ideas to the table to embrace connection with friends, family and co-workers — to create moments that feel joyful and unforgettable. All the ideas are easy to implement and sound like fun with the added plus of bonding and becoming closer.

Unlocking Us
Grief, Laughter and Sisterhood
Brene Brown and her sisters talk about slowly losing their mom to dementia and holding on to each other. They talk about loss, dementia, grief, and how we try to choose laughter and therapy over a fist fight when things get really tough.

Trevor Noah × José Andrés
Jose Andres is an accomplished Michelin chef who pivoted to become a humanitarian chef and displaced peoples advocate. His World Central Kitchen has fed millions of desperate people in war and natural catastrophe zones. It’s not just about feeding the needy, it’s having compassion and respecting the integrity of all. Trevor Noah’s South African roots understand this completely, and a great conversation is the outcome.

DOAC × Professor Alison Wood Brooks
The Psychology Of Why People Don’t Like You!
This very likeable behavioral scientist was also the consultant for the kids movie Inside Out. She enthusiastically talks with Steven about how our brains process information, feelings, memories, and gives easy to understand tips on better communication, real connection, negotiation skills and difficult conversations!

Prof G × David Brooks
What’s Actually Breaking America with Scott Galloway
David Brooks’ voice calms me and gives me hope. His experience as a NYTimes Op-Ed writer since decades and author of several books, most notably “How To Know A Person”, helped me to not take things personally and have patience, to listen better and be present for my humans.

ReThinking with Adam Grant × Anne Lamott
Anne Lamott’s thoughts on love, writing, and being judgy”
Anne Lamott — huge writer hero of mine! Her life story, her humility and her humor always make me smile and nod. Her outlook on life and how we can deal with it and stay sane (after some ranting) motivate me in life practices and also, in my own writing.
DEMOCRACY AND CURRENT EVENTS
Who holds power here — and where does your own power begin?
DOAC × Anne Applebaum
Anne’s knowledge of the history of Communism, Russia and Europe and her profession of journalist and historian combined with the ability to compare that to what’s happening in the world today, make me trust her as she explains the situations with facts and what we can do about the situation.
Displaced People
Shared humanity across differences.

Trevor Noah × José Andrés
Jose Andres is an accomplished Michelin chef who pivoted to become a humanitarian chef and displaced peoples advocate. His World Central Kitchen has fed millions of desperate people in war and natural catastrophe zones. It’s not just about feeding the needy, it’s having compassion and respecting the integrity of all. Trevor Noah’s South African roots understand this completely, and a great conversation is the outcome.

Asylum Speakers with Jaz O’Hara
Ongoing series. Listeners describe a host who brings warmth and empathy and is not afraid of dark places. Guests have included Hassan Akkad and Waad al-Kateab. Start with “The Journey,” a six-part series following migration routes from Africa, the Middle East and Ukraine into northern Europe.


Before Me
Host Lisa Phu interviews her own mother, Lan, about her life before escaping the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

